We have become what it is we claim to fear.

Afghanistan

The United States is a terrorist nation.  We have now become by our own definition a rogue state.

Any claims to the contrary are simply empty rhetoric and basically lies or expressions of delusional thinking.

If we torture them, we are no better than them.  And if we do this, then we are the same as they are:

White Phosphorus?  Concerns Over Burns on Afghans Caught in Battle

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) May 10 - Afghanistan’s leading human rights organization said Sunday it was investigating the possibility that white phosphorus was used in a U.S.-Taliban battle that killed scores of Afghans. The U.S. military rejected speculation it had used the weapon but left open the possibility Taliban militants did.

White phosphorus can be employed legitimately in battle, but rights groups say its use over populated areas can indiscriminately burn civilians and constitutes a war crime.

Afghan doctors are concerned over what they are calling “unusual” burns on Afghans wounded in last Monday’s battle in Farah province, which President Hamid Karzai has said may have killed 125 to 130 civilians.

Allegations that white phosphorus or another chemical may have been used threatens to deepen the controversy over what Afghan officials say could be the worst case of civilian deaths since the 2001 U.S. invasion that ousted the Taliban regime. The incident in Farah drew the condemnation of Karzai who called for an end to airstrikes.

Nader Nadery, a commissioner for the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission, said officials were concerned white phosphorus may have been used, but he said more investigation was needed.

“Our teams have met with patients,” Nadery told The Associated Press. “They are investigating the cause of the injuries and the use of white phosphorus.”

White phosphorus is a spontaneously flammable material that can cause painful chemical burns. It is used to mark targets, create smoke screens or as a weapon, and can be delivered by shells, flares or hand grenades, according to GlobalSecurity.org.

Human rights groups denounce its use for the severe burns it causes, though it is not banned by any treaty to which the United States is a signatory.

The U.S. military used white phosphorus in the battle of Fallujah in Iraq in November 2004. Israel’s military used it in January against Hamas targets in Gaza.

Col. Greg Julian, the top U.S. military spokesman in Afghanistan, said the U.S. did not use white phosphorus as a weapon in last week’s battle. The U.S. does use white phosphorous to illuminate the night sky, he said.

Julian noted that military officials believe that Taliban militants have used white phosphorus at least four times in Afghanistan in the past two years. “I don’t know if they (militants) had it out there or not, but it’s not out of the question,” he said.

A spokesman for the Taliban could not be reached for comment Sunday.

The U.S. military on Saturday said that Afghan doctors in Farah told American officials that the injuries seen in wounded Afghans from two villages in the province’s Bala Baluk district could have resulted from hand grenades or exploding propane tanks.

Dr. Mohammad Aref Jalali, the head of the burn unit at the Herat Regional Hospital in western Afghanistan who has treated five patients wounded in the battle, described the burns as “unusual.”

“I think it’s the result of a chemical used in a bomb, but I’m not sure what kind of chemical. But if it was a result of a burning house – from petrol or gas cylinders – that kind of burn would look different,” he said.

Gul Ahmad Ayubi, the deputy head of Farah’s health department, said the province’s main hospital had received 14 patients after the battle, all with burn wounds.

“There has been other airstrikes in Farah in the past. We had injuries from those battles, but this is the first time we have seen such burns on the bodies. I’m not sure what kind of bomb it was,” he said.

U.N. human rights investigators have also seen “extensive” burn wounds on victims and have raised questions about how the injuries were caused, said a U.N. official who asked not to be identified talking about internal deliberations. The U.N. has reached no conclusions about whether any chemical weapons may have been used, the official said.

Afghan officials say up to 147 people may have died in the battle in Farah, though the U.S. says that number is exaggerated.

The U.S. on Saturday blamed Taliban militants for causing the deaths by using villagers as human shields in the hopes they would be killed. A preliminary U.S. report did not say how many people died in the battle.

The investigation into the Farah battle coincides with an appeal by Human Rights Watch for NATO forces to release results of an investigation into a March 14 incident in which an 8-year-old Afghan girl was burned by white phosphorus munitions in Kapisa province.

The New York-based group said Saturday white phosphorus “causes horrendous burns and should not be used in civilian areas.”

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2 Responses

  1. See also Chris Hedges’ commentary
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/05/11

    I for one am feeling extremely ambivalent (to say the least) concerning our local peace organization (not organized by Quakers, I hasten to add). I participated in the Saturday vigils many, many times, while counter-demonstrators heckled us (and worse) from across the street.

    I feel that our message became diluted and even partisan during the last election. Many peace group members wore Obama pins and a few brandished signs making fun of Pres Bush. I spoke up discouraging this, as well as the boisterous “Peace now! Peace now!” chant at the end of the vigil, and suggested that we stand in silence …but what can I say? People told me about their right to free speech.

    Now that Obama has been elected, the PEACE vigil still goes on, but one thing I notice is that there are no signs demanding, “Obama — get us out of Afghanistan!” As a matter of fact, criticism of Obama is not even encouraged. So…we’re standing there, the group that protested the war in Iraq in no uncertain terms, but not protesting the war in Afghanistan directly. Many even talk about “giving Obama a chance.” I thought we were about giving PEACE a chance…

    I’m very fond of the coordinator of the group, but I don’t think I’ll be participating very often.

  2. The blind allegience to Obama is something I find irritating. What the Obama-haters don’t seem to hear is that he’s actually INCREASING defense spending. He is EXPANDING the war into Pakistan. I have not yet heard ANY concern on his part about this incident (maybe I missed it). He expresses concern about civilian casualities, but that’s about it. He’s no peacenik.

    True peace testimony, to me, should not be attached to ANY political agenda. And, let’s face it, the only peace party out there is the Greens!

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